A. Observation: This Timothy White is personal friends with John DeCamp and Ted L Gunderson: "I'm a personal friend of Ted Gunderson"... "...oh,yea..John DeCamp is a friend of mine too..." Timothy Patrick White
1. "I HAVE CONSISTANTLY DEFENDED BOTH OF YOU (John DeCamp and Ted L Gunderson) IN THE FACE OF SEVERE CRITICISM AND ATTACKS ON ME ALL OVER THE INTERNET"
a. Question: Why? Why is this Timothy White defending John DeCamp and T. Gunderson in this manner? "In the face of severe criticism and Attacks all over the internet"?
Now listen to this, then after Tim White stating the above to DeCamp and DeCamp gives a brief response, Timothy then immediately says, "GOOD REPLY !..It has been at least 8 years since I read your book and I admit..I don't recall every word or every point in it."
b. Question: If Timothy is defending John DeCamp "in the face of severe attacks and criticism all over the internet", why would he have had to write DeCamp in the first place? If he's defending DeCamp, wouldn't he have all his ducks in a row regarding John DeCamp? So, it seems like this email to DeCamp is a not so clever attempt to try and debunk my DeCamp - Gunderson info.)
c. Observation: So seeing as stated above that Timothy has a pretty strong connection to DeCamp that would mean Timothy White has an interest to "NOT BE PLAYED FOR A FOOL" as stated by Timothy in the email.
So he would be happy to, as Timothy White put it, "set the record straight" and "prove" me as a mis-informent. I'll stop there with Timothy White although I could continue.
B. Observation: Signs of Vatican - Catholic Church omissions in this case.
1. The Documentary doesn't utter a word about the guilt of the Catholic Church.
2. In John DeCamp's book and own words, he paints the over seer of boys town as an innocent person. Proving the guilt of this priest would have directly connected responsibility to the Vatican and the highest levels of the U.S. government tied together into massive pedophilia crimes.
Why? As DeCamp states in interviews, "My client is the former head of Boys Town. He was the head longer than anyone in the history of Boys Town. His name is Monsignor Robert Hupp. In 1976, he was appointed as a U.S. delegate to the United Nations, the only clergyman ever appointed to that position." Source
"He was a special delegate appointed by i think two different presidents as a representative to the United Nations on behalf of children." (!!) ~John DeCamp
Rupp had been the head of Boys Town from the late 1970s through the decade of the 1980s--the critical time in question for the Franklin case.
a. So Monsignor Robert Hupp had to be taken out of the picture of guilt. This was the clean-up job John DeCamp was given. (This is all detective work at play. Read the info and draw your own conclusions)
b. Do a search on Robert hupp. Not only will you NOT find any incriminating evidence against him but he is made to look like a wonderful man. Meanwhile he was the top guy in boys town when this abuse was taking place. You don't smell a rat?
Barbara Hartwell vs. CIA Unverifiable Source but interesting. I found this doing a google search for ""timothy white" viet nam vet"
Apparently this woman is alleging that Timothy White is sending her harassing, threatening letters. ~Source
AND Here is yet ANOTHER person claiming to be threatened and harrassed by Timothy White. ~Source
I, Thomas Richards can witness and testify that this Timothy White is doing the same exact thing to me.And in regards to John DeCamp and Ted Gunderson as she claims! If you would like me to forward these emails from Timothy Patrick White to you let me know. They are filled with profanity or else I would post them in here.
"WHAT ARE TIM WHITE'S CREDENTIALS? WHERE DOES HE GET HIS "FACTS" ?
"I should also add that I have never seen anything posted by Tim White which bears any resemblance to the truth, at least about any legitimate person he has targeted, and there have been quite a few. But aside from his vicious libel of various individuals, Tim White is just a scavenger who posts recycled information on generic issues, written by others, which he finds on the Internet. He claims to be a "Concerned Citizen" which is how he signs all his posts."
"However, Tim White's lack of credentials and bona fides; as well as his documented criminal background as a convicted (and predicate) felon, notwithstanding, let me pose this question:"
"What could possibly constitute "100% confirmation" about the identity of your son, Johnny Gosch as Jeff Gannon ? That is an awfully strong statement to make, especially to publish far and wide. More importantly, how is Tim White, an uninvolved bystander, and complete amateur, qualified to make this ironclad claim ?"
Is Jeff Gannon Johnny Gosch?
"The answer is clear: Tim White is not qualified to make any such claims, He knows nothing from his own experience. He is not an investigator. He is in fact, uneducated. His writings demonstrate this as well as anything could. Tim White is merely a loud-mouthed dupe who shoots off his mouth at every opportunity, often using obscenity to smear his targets. What he thinks he knows comes mostly from the disinformation he is fed by Ted Gunderson and his criminal cohorts, who are exploiting him for their own ends. Tim White simply parrots what he is fed (most of which is false) and has been doing so, to my knowledge, going as far back as 2001, when I first heard of him. Tim White does not know me and has never met me. He calls me "Barbara Hartwell, that CIA bitch" in his public posts and has been doing so for years. He also calls me a "whore", along with other vile epithets which I refuse to put into print."
"In point of fact, Tim White is a delusional pathological liar with an axe to grind, who made a deal with criminal government operatives and law enforcement personnel, for a get-out-of-jail-free card in 2002, in return for targeting legitimate whistle-blowers like myself. I have a file chock-full of the many lies Tim White has posted, about me alone, spanning a time period between 2001 and the present day, 2005. He has even tried to implicate me in murders, that is, of people I never knew, had never met nor ever had any contact with ! I have the documents, all in my file."
"Tim White has zero credibility among legitimate whistle-blowers and professionals and is mentally unstable (to say the least) to boot."
"Now, it's important that I add the testimony of another person who has been victimized by Ted Gunderson, and subsequently targeted by Tim White, Jackie McGauley. I am aware that you know Jackie but when I spoke to her recently she told me that she had not been able to get in contact with you for quite some time. She also knows that Ted Gunderson has told many lies about her to anyone he associates with." ~Source
My Video: "Conspiracy of Silence The Vatican Connection"
"Pictured here is John DeCamp and his book The Franklin Cover-up from which this article is taken. He has appeared on our TV program several times warning people about the danger of satanic ritual murder and other perils threatening our children today. This 288 page book is available from The Fatima Crusader." Source
Excerpt: "Somehow he managed to avoid speaking about the ongoing pedophile priest scandal in the Roman Catholic Church. I can understand this omission for obvious political reason."
"However, perhaps he discussed the matter in Rome when he me with the Pope last August. After all, the accused pedophile featured in the enclosed documentary used the Catholic institution of Boys town to run his nationwide child prostitution network in collaboration with his father, then Vice President George HW Bush on behalf of the CIA whose directors have usually been Knights of Malta, a secretive militant right wing organization of the Roman Catholic Church."
"I could write this letter without referencing this vast network, but it would be dishonest of me not to give you all the facts as I know them. After all, it was CIA Director William Colby, himself a Knight of Malta, who helped expose this national pedophile network by giving his friend, attorney John DeCamp, the necessary leads to pursue." (This statement contradicts other versions that say William Colby told John DeCamp that he shouldn't get involved in the case. -TR)
"What I am talking about is not ancient history, but a continuing cover up by the FBI and corporate media
as witnessed by the fact that nobody dares to point out the obvious link between the current pedophile priest scandal that exploded in Boston and the Omaha-based
pedophile ring in Nebraska run by Larry E. King, Jr., a rising black star in the Republican Party in the late 70's and 80's."
OMAHA-BOSTON AXIS OF EVIL
"Here is an example to prove my point: I researched the background of the psychiatrist who treated convicted
pedophile priest Paul Shanley for 'anxiety'. According to the Boston Herald, Dr. Edwin Cassem, the Chief of
Psychiatry at the renowned Mass General Hospital in Boston, is a Jesuit priest. Cardinal Law appointed him to the original commission he created to reexamine the way 'the Church' should treat pedophile priests."
"Apparently, Paul Shanley suffered from no sexual disorder, just anxiety and stress for being persecuted as a pedophile. Am I too cruel or is Dr. Cassem a friend to pedophiles?"
[Jesuit] CREIGHTON UNIVERSITY IN OMAHA
"I suggest the answer lies in the fact that he serves on the same Board of Directors at Creighton University like many of the same Omaha political-economic elite who financed Larry King, Jr. to head the Franklin Credit Union which in turn formed close economic ties with Boystown. Please refer to the enclosed list of these directors and pay particular attention to the highlighted names prominently mentioned by attorney John DeCamp on pages 158-59 and pages 134-135 in his Franklin Cover up: Child Abuse, Satanism and Murder in Nebraska as being either collaborators with King's illegal activities or political godfathers who corrupted the police and press to support these activities."
Timothy White, exposes himself as an attack dog for Vatican agents, John DeCamp and Ted L. Gunderson.
Emails from John DeCamp and Timothy White:
New Short Video re: John Decamp
Emails below, This is a small commentary by me:
03/09/2008John DeCamp, Ted L Gunderson and others who circulate their information act like it's such a big deal that they have information that ties top level government officials like George HW Bush to pedophilia. This is a smokescreen which is sent forth purposely by the likes of Gunderson, DeCamp and others. Bush is (was) the president of the United States. The Pope is the King of the Earth. The United States has only 303 Million people (Just under 70 million are officially Roman Catholic). The Catholic Church boasts over a BILLION members. And many of them are in very strategic positions. And they have organized militias in the United States. For example. The Knights of Columbus boast 1.7 million members in the United States. Many of them are police officers. So the Pope's Militia is incorperated into, and working through our Police Force. Don't believe me? Look at my info on the Blue Mass. According to this article it's estimated that more than 5,000 priests out of nearly 41,500 across the United States have been denounced for sexually abusing children since the 1950s. Yet, if you look at Gunderson's site and Alex Jones' site there aren't any mentions of this. They ONLY cover abuse by others such as "Rebublicans".."elites" which pales in comparison to the abuse through Catholic Priests. Check out Sex Crimes in the Vatican.
These emails are in response to my web page and info on John DeCamp and Ted L Gunderson regarding "The Franklin Cover-up" and the documentary "The Conspiracy of Silence" being a cover-up for further Vatican abuse on children.
I'm going to be working on this for the next few days so please check for updates. I'll probably be doing another video on this also.
Please follow all this. I believe this is very important stuff I'm covering. The info I present is all sourced. I am convinced that DeCamp is part of a huge cover-up. The way it seems to me is that this Timothy White is some kind of plant trying to cast doubt and/or suspicion on people's accurate reporting. Show me exactly which part of my work is "dis-information" as this Timothy is so quick to charge.
This is an email I received from this "Timothy White" on 2/27/2008 10:01:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time. (I wasnt interested. I dont need other peoples info. Especially from "sources" like him. I don't even know him at all. He knows this. Notice how he uses the old "I'm a friend of Eric Phelps" to try and get me to trust him.)
PLEASE CONTACT ME....I'm a friend of Eric Phelps
2/27/2008 10:01:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
I have info to communicate to you with regards to Ted Gunderson,John DeCamp,Bill Colby,Brig Gen Ben Partin,Greg Szymanski,Leo Zagami,Craig Oxley,many others...contact Eric Phelps who knows me very well...
After ignoring this email. The next thing I know I have two emails in my inbox regarding my Gunderson - DeCamp information. One email from John DeCamp (Ex Cia aid, ex senator, attorney, author, etc)and another email from this Timothy White who I don't know much about except there's a very long thread about him at the Unhived Mind Forum.(But I'm finding a lot of information about him that I can verify to be true. like harrassing, threatening emails. Ha! Timothy White, You really have the wrong guy to be trying to threaten. Look in the left hand column for more.)
The Following is the initial email (that I'm aware of) from a "Timothy White" to John DeCamp regarding my info:
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2008 1:03 PM
Subject: CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS TO ME..Ted Gunderson and John DeCamp ????
CAN YOU BOTH EXPLAIN WHY YOU ARE COVERING UP THE JESUITS and the VATICAN'S TOTAL INVOLVEMENT IN PEDOPHILIA ? I WANT ANSWERS TO THIS AND I WANT THEM NOW ! I WANT TO KNOW..John DeCamp...WHY are YOU "defending" THE PEDOPHILE JESUIT MONSIGNOR WHO CONTROLLED BOYSTOWN ? ! I AM EXTREMELY ANGRY TO SEE THIS AND READ THIS ! I WANT ANSWERS ! IF I DON'T GET ANSWERS...I POST THIS ALL OVER THE INTERNET...I WILL NOT BE PLAYED FOR A FOOL ANY LONGER..I HAVE CONSISTANTLY DEFENDED BOTH OF YOU IN THE FACE OF SEVERE CRITICISM AND ATTACKS ON ME ALL OVER THE INTERNET..NEED I TELL YOU BOTH BY WHOM ? ! ANSWERS.... AND REAL DAMN SOON ! YOU HAVE 24 HOURS. I AM NOT EVEN CLOSE TO KIDDING ABOUT THIS !
Re: CAN YOU EXPLAIN THIS TO ME..Ted Gunderson and John DeCamp ????
3/5/2008 10:07:27 P.M. Eastern Standard Time
Memo from: John DeCamp 5 March 08
TO: TIM WHITE……RE: BOGUS ALLEGATIONS & INCOMPETENCE
All the questions & ACCUSATIONS U raised are dealt with in spades in my book. Best READ it. But, to summarize:
(1) My Lawsuit against Catholic Archbishop & Omaha Diocese alleging abuse by priests of children under their care was FIRST ONE IN THE U.S.A. to bring this issue & problem into the open & into the courts.
(2) I WON MILLION $$$ Judgement in that case—even though the Judge LET THE CATHOLIC CHURCH OUT OF THE CASE & said my claims against the priests were outrageous.
(3) When I could get no church authorities to deal with the problem I WENT PERSONALLY TO ROME & GOT AN AUDIENCE WITH THE POPE. Though I only got to say “hello” to the Pope at the time, I WAS REFERRED AND SENT TO THE CARDINAL IN CHARGE OF NORTH AMERICAN AFFAIRS, A CHAP NAMED “CARDINAL RATZINGER.”
(4)I laid out the issue & asked his help. Here is essentially what he told me & which I put into my book & repeatedly into the public records for any and all who would listen and/ or were bright enough to do more than send out E mails attacking folk.
“ROME IS WELL AWARE OF THESE PROBLEMS & WE HAVE TRIED TO MAKE THE NORTH AMERICAN CHURCH LISTEN. BUT THE NORTH AMERICAN CHURCH WILL NOT LISTEN & SAYS THEY HAVE ALL THESE MATTERS UNDER CONTROL. YOU, MR. DECAMP, SHOULD DO WHATEVER YOU CAN TO ALERT CHURCH AUTHORITIES TO THE GRAVITY OF THE PROBLEM…..BECAUSE, THEY WILL NOT LISTEN TO US.”
(5)As for your comments about Mr. Gunderson, He is a big boy and capable & answering any questions U have himself. Mr. Gunderson, if U had read my book, TIM, was originally hired to come to Nebraska, INVESTIGATE ME JOHN DECAMP & TRY TO PROVE I WAS WRONG ABOUT MY CLAIMS & ALLEGATIONS OF SEXUAL ABUSE & KILLING & SALE OF CHILDREN, ETC., & WAS MY ADVERSARY. When he concluded & learned to HIS SATISFACTION that I was the INDIVIDUAL TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT THIS WAS WHEN HE, SO TO SPEAK, JOINED MY SIDE. The people who hired Gunderson were Most DISAPPOINTED & SHOCKED WHEN HE, GUNDERSON, TOOK UP MY SIDE.
(6) As far as Msgr Hupp is concerned, READ MY BOOK. Hupp tried to do something about the situation WHEN HE LEARNED & I PROVED TO HIM HOW SERIOUS WAS & HOW BOYS TOWN WAS INVOLVED, among others. He then asked ME to represent him, HUPP, in exposing & correcting the problem. Shortly after that, he was EXPELLED from his retirement residence with the priests & went to Wisconsin. He was on his way back from Wisconsin (I believe to meet with me, etc., & file some legal actions) when he mysteriously ended up dead. Duh. (Duh, He was 88 Years old. he died of a viral infection. Very common -TR)
TIM, FREE ADVICE, CHECK YOUR SOURCES & DON’T BE WRITING BULLSHIT YOU CAN NOT PROVE. U ARE BETTER THAN THAT & U LOSE YOUR CREDIBILITY WHEN U DO IT.
And John DeCamp didn't bother signing it with his name. -TR
(My Comment: Credibility? Who is this guy Timonthy White and what credibility does he have? Does anbody know who Timonthy White is? What's "credibility" to John DeCamp anyway? The circle of people (CIA shills) he belongs to that only regurgitate his information? Listen, I know ALL this stuff that John DeCamp states here. This is the same stuff he talks about when doing interviews from time to time. he paints the over seer of boystown as innocent, doesnt name names of any other priests involved, gets a personal audience with the Pope and meanwhile DeCamp's work and the documentary gets spread far and wide without any really damaging information coming out about the Catholic Church's involvement. Then you have Catholic organizations like the Fatima Network promoting his book. Then, after I put my video up in October 2007 about my research and the peculiarities I find regarding the case, DeCamp starts flooding the internet with his interviews in December of that year. -Thomas Richards)
Timothy White's Response:
To John DeCamp,
GOOD REPLY !..It has been at least 8 years since I read your book and I admit..I don't recall every word or every point in it. I felt that I had to get this angry by what I read on the website of Thomas Richards-- WWW.SPIRITUALLYSMART.COM in order to make MY point to FINALLY bring this to a head so that ALL can read what will --hopefully-- set the record straight at least as far as you are concerned. I have not heard anything from Ted Gunderson YET and I have NOT heard one word from Thomas Richards--though I emailed him for other reasons but this was before this came to my attention...did Thomas Richards EVER speak with you or email you at all with regards to this? I take it he did not. I no longer have your book...that is gone along with EVERYTHING else that I ever owned..due to the treachery of many people who have common names to you,Ted Gunderson,myself and many other people. Your book is NOT in the libraries here...gee..I wonder why...and I sure don't have any money to get a copy. My temper just shot through the roof on this and since I reacted this way--on an especially BAD DAY for me...I think you HAD to address this forthwith to put a stop to this DISINFORMATION before it got much more legs on it. I did NOT put this out on the internet..I was sure HOPING to see either your reply or the reply from Ted very soon...hopefully his is still forthcoming to further explain ALL the facts that are still unknown by many or forgotten by many..myself included. So,in short-I owe you an apology for how I handled this and I make no bones about it...I saw RED and I went from there...I didn't give you the initial benefit of my doubt and for that,I am truly sorry...hope you understand and can forgive my lack of faith in you. BTW...Pope RAT SINGER is actually the JESUIT who has been in DIRECT CHARGE of COVERING UP ALL THE CHURCH'S RAMPANT PEDOPHILIA ! HE IS A SCURVY LIAR ! OK..NOW the central ISSUE to be addressed here is....WHAT IS THOMAS RICHARDS GOING TO DO ABOUT THIS ? HEY..Thomas..the ball is in YOUR court.
"DISINFORMATION"? Really? Let's see. What IS "disinformation"?
"Disinformation": is a preemptive dissemination of deliberately misleading information announced publicly or leaked by a government, intelligence agency, corporation or other entity to prevent a target audience from realising accurate conclusions.
So on what grounds do you accuse me of "Disinformation"?
Are you saying is that I am purposely trying to deceive an audience into not believing that DeCamp is innocent and that he and Gunderson are like super heroes in a world of corruption? Hmmm. Neither sound very likely Timothy White.
"HEY..Thomas..the ball is in YOUR court"
That's wonderful. I'm really impressed with this charade. Really I am. It really has me wondering what the heck's going on. The good news is. I still only share info I have found that are facts in this case and simply present my questions, suspicions and alalysis of it all. Think about it. Am I the judge and jury of this case? Is my word law? Counter my info however you like. -Thomas Richards
"I had worked with Gunderson for three (3) years between 1997-2000. I spoke with him at conferences; traveled with him to work on investigations in various areas of the country; did radio and TV interviews with him.
In February 1998, Insider Secrets of Government Corruption, a seminar given by myself, Ted Gunderson, ex-CIA operative Gene 'Chip' Tatum and Brice Taylor aka Sue Ford, at the Global Sciences Congress in Daytona Beach, Fla. was followed by a TV interview with Ryan Elliot of Chicago Health Television.
The taped interview was never aired by the station. The topics, which included firsthand testimony about CIA drug-running, assassinations and mind control and which named names of many criminals in government, including George H.W. Bush, was deemed too inflammatory for television.
However, Ted Gunderson and Sue Ford made large profits off bootleg sales of this tape (made by a back-up cameraman, Jon Gentry, working for Gunderson) while I received nothing, not a penny, for my work. Gunderson minions, such as Jon Gentry, Ted's videographer, and Ted's sidekick, Doug Millar, a low-level penetration agent for Division 5 of the Denver FBI and Domestic Contact Services (a CIA operation also run out of Denver) also pirated this tape, which has been sold all over the Internet, by many others, including charlatan and disinfo specialist David Icke, another Gunderson crony, copyright violations notwithstanding. The tape, under the title, Mind Control Goes Public, is even on sale at Aamazon.com. As long as they're making money, nobody cares.
I cut off contact with Ted Gunderson in January 2000, long before I talked to Jackie McGauley, after I uncovered my own evidence of his involvement in numerous scams; dirty dealings and COINTELPRO-style operations.
Gunderson in fact admitted to me, in a face-to-face conversation, at his son's home in New Jersey, in November 1999, that John DeCamp, author of The Franklin Coverup, was himself INVOLVED in the sexual abuse of children, after I confronted Ted about this and explained that I knew about it from another absolutely trustworthy source. This was the reason I was banned from Genesis Communications Network by Alex Jones in 2003, because I told the truth on The Floyd Report about Gunderson's and DeCamps's involvement in child sex slavery and pornography rings (including Operation Brownstone and CIA Finders); and also about Gunderson's dealings with Osama bin Laden, when he sold Stinger missles to him in 1979, while still working for the FBI. I have documentation for these facts." -Source Link